That famous ten-day war in Troy....
May. 18th, 2004 12:19 amSo, I went to see "Troy" tonight with Kristin. I was quite impressed, for a start, at how they managed to annhilate a good few centuries' worth of literature in one fell swoop, just by careful slaughtering of people who really didn't die in that way. Farewell to the Odyssey, where Telemachus can no longer encounter Menelaos and Helen at Sparta, because Menelaos died on the second day of battle. Farewell to Sophocles' Ajax, where Ajax can no longer quarrel with Odysseus over Achilles' armor and subsequently commit suicide, because, ooh, Ajax also died on the second day of battle. Farewell to the entirety of the Oresteia, 'cause how is Orestes ever going to avenge his father's death at the hands of his mother when his father never even managed to leave Trojan soil? Farewell to Catullus 68, for although Laodamia might well mourn for a less-aptly named Protesilaos, I'm pretty damn sure that Achilles was the first one onto the beach at Troy. And can I just pause a moment to laugh my head off at the tender years of Aeneas as he supported an appropriately elderly Anchises and was handed The Sword of Troy, +2 against Greeks, by a still-living Paris, rather than being handed the Trojan penates by the shade of Hector?
The casting, on the other hand, was masterful. Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana, Sean Bean, and Brad Pitt were all perfect in their roles, as I rather expected. The girl playing Helen (I still have no idea of her name, and I'm not going to look it up on IMDb, 'cause that's rather my point) was certainly attractive enough, too.
Back to being a whinging classicist, now: I was so convinced that they were going to have Astyanax bursting into tears at Hector's helmet, they had a beautiful setup for it, even showed him taking his helmet and sticking it under his arm, but no. They had to have Astyanax start crying for no reason whatsoever, just to show that his father wasn't going to come back and he could somehow sense it. Why didn't Hector just jam the fucking thing on his head??? It would have made me so happy. *sigh* And damn, I guess showing Astyanax getting tossed off a wall would've just been too much for American audiences, being as how he was such a cute baby. *again, sigh*
There was quite a good reaction from the audience when Patroclus died but everyone still thought it was Achilles — a lady in back gasped "No!" and when Hector snatched off the helmet to reveal Patroclus' face, even Kristin, whom I had believed to know at least bits of the story, was surprised.
The lack of gods made for some kind of weird changes; although I can see that including the gods would have possibly made the whole thing too cumbersome, they could have structured it far more sensibly in order to exclude them than they did. Also, what was with the completely random battle for Thessaly at the beginning? It also would have made my day to see Brad Pitt dressed convincingly in women's clothing, but I guess they couldn't add that much of a dimension onto the story. People'd be all, WTF? But that's enough out of me. I will endeavor to forget the travesty that is "Troy." And now, I would like to take a moment to curse Berkeley theaters for never having junior mints. What the hell is wrong with the local cinemas?? A quick trip to Walgreens sufficed, of course, but it shouldn't be necessary. I mean, really.
And on an entirely different note, that random (but kinda cool) color-of-username meme (except it apparently only works in IE):
darcydodo
Cut and paste the following into your journal, replacing username with, strangely enough, your username:
<font color="username"><b>username</b></font>
The casting, on the other hand, was masterful. Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana, Sean Bean, and Brad Pitt were all perfect in their roles, as I rather expected. The girl playing Helen (I still have no idea of her name, and I'm not going to look it up on IMDb, 'cause that's rather my point) was certainly attractive enough, too.
Back to being a whinging classicist, now: I was so convinced that they were going to have Astyanax bursting into tears at Hector's helmet, they had a beautiful setup for it, even showed him taking his helmet and sticking it under his arm, but no. They had to have Astyanax start crying for no reason whatsoever, just to show that his father wasn't going to come back and he could somehow sense it. Why didn't Hector just jam the fucking thing on his head??? It would have made me so happy. *sigh* And damn, I guess showing Astyanax getting tossed off a wall would've just been too much for American audiences, being as how he was such a cute baby. *again, sigh*
There was quite a good reaction from the audience when Patroclus died but everyone still thought it was Achilles — a lady in back gasped "No!" and when Hector snatched off the helmet to reveal Patroclus' face, even Kristin, whom I had believed to know at least bits of the story, was surprised.
The lack of gods made for some kind of weird changes; although I can see that including the gods would have possibly made the whole thing too cumbersome, they could have structured it far more sensibly in order to exclude them than they did. Also, what was with the completely random battle for Thessaly at the beginning? It also would have made my day to see Brad Pitt dressed convincingly in women's clothing, but I guess they couldn't add that much of a dimension onto the story. People'd be all, WTF? But that's enough out of me. I will endeavor to forget the travesty that is "Troy." And now, I would like to take a moment to curse Berkeley theaters for never having junior mints. What the hell is wrong with the local cinemas?? A quick trip to Walgreens sufficed, of course, but it shouldn't be necessary. I mean, really.
And on an entirely different note, that random (but kinda cool) color-of-username meme (except it apparently only works in IE):
darcydodo
Cut and paste the following into your journal, replacing username with, strangely enough, your username:
<font color="username"><b>username</b></font>
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Date: 2004-05-18 01:49 am (UTC)As a general rule, if you want to change the font in Refried Paper you basically need to use <span style="some CSS">, because otherwise browsers get confused by the priorities between the CSS in the header (do view source and you'll see what I mean) and the font specification in your tag. I'm not sure whether this particular trick will work in a CSS-ish <span style> context rather than an HTML <font> context, though! It's also why you were having trouble way back when when you were trying to make the font larger and it was appearing smaller.
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Date: 2004-05-18 02:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-18 03:58 am (UTC)Um, then why when I had already tested this hypothesis in IE and Mozilla did it not prove to be entirely true — in Mozilla, at least my Mozilla, the color refuses to show even when I click to comment. I mean, yes, it's true that it doesn't work in refried paper, but it also doesn't seem to work at all in Mozilla.
I didn't know that one was allowed to use CSS in the body of a journal entry. Good to know.
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Date: 2004-05-18 03:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-18 04:04 am (UTC)Hey, I just thought of something--I bet Ted reads your lj too, huh?
Hi Ted!
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Date: 2004-05-18 04:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-18 05:39 am (UTC)That's because there's also CSS defining the font in the Xcolibur layout (the blue and white frame stuff you see on comment pages). Yes, it is a Mozilla vs IE problem in a way; IE ignores the CSS in the page header if it sees a <font> tag, Mozilla keeps on applying the CSS regardless. I can't remember which of those is formally correct, but anyway, that's what happens.
The color trick works in principle in Mozilla though. Try looking at my friends page, or put the HTML into a plain page and view that in Mozilla if you don't believe me.
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Date: 2004-05-18 05:43 am (UTC)The color trick
*cheers wildly*
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Date: 2004-05-18 11:32 am (UTC)"We'll call each second a minute--each minute an hour--each hour a day--and each day a year."
Date: 2004-05-18 11:36 am (UTC)Oh, no, no. *points to title of original post* Or maybe it was even more like 5 days. Though there was also a twelve day break for Hector's funeral games (though not Patroclus's!), they specified that much. That's when, you know, the Greeks went and hid and left the Trojan horse. Yup. Right after Hector's body was ransomed. Oh yeah.
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Date: 2004-05-18 12:45 pm (UTC)tzeentch
It appears to be a nice puce color. :)
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Date: 2004-05-18 03:11 pm (UTC)::snickers::
* "blau" in German = "gris" in French
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Date: 2004-05-18 03:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-19 05:51 am (UTC)Take a deep breath. 'Oh no he wasn't!'
There was a prophecy that the first one to jump to the beach at Troy would be the first to die, so Achilles was prevented from being that man. The name of the man who took his place doesn't ring a bell, though.
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Date: 2004-05-19 08:47 am (UTC)